Proton Flock Camera Map

(proton.me)

109 points | by cdrnsf 13 hours ago

12 comments

  • illithid0 12 hours ago
    I'm a big fan of Proton, and I couldn't imagine using anyone else's email services, but in the age of ID verification for porn and governments trying to ban VPNs, I just hope there aren't any bears that feel this poke is too hard.
    • ohihcocyc 1 hour ago
      Proton is in bed with the bears.
  • eiiot 11 hours ago
    This map is missing a number of locations near me that DeFlock (https://deflock.org/) has. For example, entrances to Stanford's campus.
    • LimeLimestone 11 hours ago
      > entrances to Stanford's campus

      Wtf?

      I'm not from the US, so please bear with me, but does this mean that, if I were to study there, I wouldn't be able to enter the campus without being tracked by a private company?

      • cowlevel 10 hours ago
        Yes. But Stanford is already a private company that tracks you.
        • torlok 10 hours ago
          Yes, but it's not collecting excessive data and handing it over to a fascist state.
          • b00ty4breakfast 9 hours ago
            It's likely they already are. And if they aren't, they would roll over like a fat dog in heat if the feds pushed a little.
          • cowlevel 10 hours ago
            Are you sure?
    • etoxin 9 hours ago
      Protons map includes other countries.
  • b00ty4breakfast 9 hours ago
    It is very good that Flock is getting so much negative attention, but I fear that Flock may be a "trap crop" in this space, distracting the public taking all the heat while some other companies are doing the same thing without all the public awareness.
    • ssl-3 9 hours ago
      I'm not worried about it. It's just a word.

      Regular folks often refer to any larger-than-phone, smaller-than-laptop device they see with a screen as an iPad, even if it's a hardwired Clover payment terminal running Android. The description is wrong, but it's easier to accept it than to correct it. I'm over it.

      Regular folks can go ahead and call any nefariously-networked camera a Flock camera. This description is also wrong, but I'm over it as well.

      • b00ty4breakfast 8 hours ago
        I'm not worried about genericized trademarks. We may end up getting rid of Flock the company without getting rid of what Flock is doing.
        • ssl-3 8 hours ago
          What I'm trying to convey is this:

          We may end up getting rid of Flock the company (ha, as if), but we'll always have [what people call] Flock cameras.

  • carimura 9 hours ago
    The two in my California neighborhood actually got cut down about a month ago and one hasn't been replaced yet (still shows active on that map). My neighborhood board voted to tell the Sheriff's department NOT to replace it.

    It's interesting how there's pretty strong voices on all sides of the political spectrum calling for the removal of them (for different reasons).

  • olegdotcom 9 hours ago
    Why are there so few cameras in Manhattan, but so many almost everywhere else? San Francisco has a ton of them for example.
    • plainenglish 29 minutes ago
      The NYPD already have a far more invasive system, 'Domain Awareness'.
  • ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago
  • FergusArgyll 9 hours ago
    Wow, they're everywhere. I did not realize the extent of it
    • etoxin 9 hours ago
      There's one in Cuba and others scattered around Mexico. Also Hawaii and South Africa.
  • BatchJob 9 hours ago
    This is really great, amazing. Thanks Proton for rolling this out.
  • xqcgrek2 11 hours ago
    That must be a treasure trove of camera data.
  • joering2 8 hours ago
    Beautifully put together. I was disgusted to know Home Depot allowed for cameras facing each exit, meanwhile others like Lowe's pushed back. I will never go to Home Depo again, and find most product same pricing or few cents more expensive at Lowe's. Who cares? These people been #1 customers for HD and this is how you pay back...

    I wish some rich Law Firm would file a class action lawsuit against Home Depo for violation of basic privacy. All you need is a receipt of purchased product, as there is no other way to enter their premises than to park upfront and get your license read and stored indefinitely.

    • pkthunder 44 minutes ago
      I can only speak to my own experiences but plenty of Lowes have cameras pointing at or away from their parking lots around my area. Same with HD.
  • onebeartwobears 9 hours ago
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