There is more to code review than (automatable) detection

(adaptivecapacitylabs.com)

44 points | by utiiiD 1 day ago

7 comments

  • refactor_master 6 minutes ago
    In my experience, automated code review is more pointless than ever.

    We have all the linters, tests, and AI writing code for us. I don’t need the left hand to tell the right hand it did a good job. I’m very certain my code runs when I push the PR.

    What I need now is architectural, long-horizon and business perspective.

  • n4r9 2 hours ago
    There's been a lot of talk about the purpose of code review recently. It makes sense in the face of AI. Heres a link that was submitted a little while ago: https://mathstodon.xyz/@mjd/115096720350507897

    And in response I wrote a non-exhaustive checklist of things that a code review can look for:

    - Does it functionally achieve what it sets out to (as per tacker issue or PR description)?

    - Does it have extraneous code? Leftover debug prints, private API keys etc...

    - Does it have any obvious defects? Memory leaks, un-handled edge cases, security flaws, obsolete API calls, etc...

    - Could it be more understandable? Add/remove abstractions, better variable/method names, more/less functional etc...

    - Is the style consistent with the codebase and/or style guidelines?

    - Are there obvious performance improvements? Hashset instead of list, lazy evaluations, etc...

    - Is it sufficiently well tested?

    I think LLMs are okay at most of these, and worst at the first.

    • anarazel 2 hours ago
      - Do we want this? Cost/Benefit etc

      - Is the change architecturally right?

      Particularly the latter LLMs seem still pretty useless at.

      • birdatlaw 1 hour ago
        The former feels more like a product leadership problem.

        Although I do think that LLMs have made it much easier to justify writing low-value code which can make this more common now.

        • anarazel 53 minutes ago
          I work on an open source project, so to-be-reviewed work can come in without any involvement by anyone :)
    • aeonik 1 hour ago
      Missing my biggest issues as you ask the agents to do larger tasks with less up front planning.

      Is there already a pattern or code on in in the existing codebase that handles this functionality,

      Do we really need net new code to achieve this functionality?

      Can existing code be extended or abstracted to more cleanly implement this feature or functionality.

      • bunderbunder 9 minutes ago
        “Net new” is one it seems to be particularly bad at.

        I don’t think I have ever even once seen an LLM solve a problem related to overengineering by simply removing the overengineering. They always choose to add more epicycles and further compound the complexity.

  • LunicLynx 2 hours ago
    Unfortunately this often represents the only feedback given by the people in those „higher“ positions.

    „The indent is wrong here“

    „Comments should end with a period“

    Because this kind of feedback is and was always easy.

    • parpfish 2 hours ago
      If you get feedback like that, it’s time for your team to get automated linting/formatting
      • refactor_master 9 minutes ago
        Call for a style guide meeting every time you see feedback like this, and write down what everybody agrees on. You’ll never have to do it again after 3-4 of those. Problem solved.

        Still not solved? Guess it was really about the commas and not the value delivered anyway, so do whatever you feel like.

  • keithnz 54 minutes ago
    code reviews are just a gateway that can be whatever you want it to be, and is kind of legacy human coder thing now. At its basics it was a point to catch problems that humans were likely to make / would more likely make if they knew there wasn't a review. Now you can target it for AI mistakes. You can build your code review skills (AI skill) to be incredibly thorough. The points made in the article don't really seem like things you need to do at the "legacy" gateway of code review. Things are different now. Code is cheap. Validation, Product Coherence, Governance need to be done early and throughout.
  • abstractspoon 20 hours ago
    I think this applies to the writing of code as well
  • hazard 2 hours ago
    Pangram check on the article: 94% of this text is AI
    • meander_water 1 hour ago
      I actually think this might be a false positive. I think it got tripped up by the higher than average use of jargon (which I don't mind here because the article itself flowed well and raised good points).

      Gpt-zero scores "human", and I've always found it to be a better judge

    • singpolyma3 1 hour ago
      Pangram check on this comment: 142% of this text is AI
    • blastingrock 1 hour ago
      it's really obvious too
  • bengold14 2 hours ago
    I couldn’t agree more. Code review is integral to engineering, to sharing system understanding, to building sustainable systems.

    Something is missing in the new ai bot review paradigm we’ve all sleepwalked into.

    I’ve been building Archme.io for this reason. PR reviews for the age of AI